My bikes will never be as clean, no matter how hard I try, as those of the Longfellow Mafia. They have some secret potions and ancient methods that defy the realm of my simple world. I could sell my place and move to their region and try to attain that level of excellence through daily practice. But, would they even let me in and do I have the discipline? One thing I can do and did do is use the octane the way they do. It's a start anyway. My bikes look cleaner already.